Total Complete IIDX Noob

[Baka of the Orochi]

IIDX is GETTING to be the hardest Bemani, but in all honesty, I think Guitar Freaks has it beat.

IMO, Pop 'n is about as hard as IIDX.

DrumMania, eh, it's hard to gauge that game, but not really.

KBM isn't hard. It has a hard learning curve, but spend enough time with it (not as much as you would need with IIDX though), then Carezza [a] shouldn't be impossible. I have a better chance of passing Carezza [a] than OML [a].
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[werd]

OMLA is on a different tier of difficulty, compared to anything that came before it... or anything else on 10th... of course this is as far as 7k charts go.. some 14K charts are just impossible and definately the hardest stuff out there. Quasar A14 LOL 0% clear rate...there are others too. How many songs in GF have 0% clear rates.
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whites

[asakura]

just a quick question...

how do you get the mod menu in IIDX? i dont have the game yet (in about a month i will) do you just press select or something? cause i'm sure i'll be using hte hispeed mods
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[quote:fdc56e267f="SakeLoverReturns"]nah raping the bar isn't cheating. If you ask me it's asking for it. Being there behind you looking all nice and firm. It's just begging to be grabbed onto. lmfao [/quote]

[Superstar Player]

Press Start on the song select. You can also do this on the main menu, though I am not sure you can do it with all versions.

[0rion]

Here's a few thoughts:

In terms of starting out and learning how to play, IIDX is by far the toughest Bemani game you'll ever play. Possibly the hardest game, period. The timing window is INCREDIBLY small, especially compared to games like Pop 'n' and DDR. Even if you're phenomenal at both of those games, expect a LOT of Goods and non-flashing Greats while you're learning the ropes.

You'll eventually be pressured into using Hi-Speed for songs (VERY few people play anything significant on HS0), so get used to the idea. Don't do that right away, because low-level songs don't require it and you'll just end up getting lost on the controller.

If you're switching to IIDX from DDR, here's a couple of differences. First, unlike DDR, which only penalizes you for not stepping on a note in time, IIDX will punish you if you ADD notes in. So, ONLY play the notes that you're supposed to.

Play 6th style or higher first. 6th style incorporated the VERY helpful Beginner mode, which is NOT something to be ashamed of like it is in DDR. For many, it has been an absolutely vital learning tool.

The lifebar structure is different in IIDX than it is in DDR. In IIDX, you will not be penalized for going to 0% of your lifebar. You must bring your life back up to at least 80% by the end of the song, however (known as "passing"), or you failed the song. The exception is the "Hard/Expert" lifebar, which starts at 100 and doesn't have a "passing" range, but like DDR, you'll fail the song if you go down to 0%. Despite being called the "hard" lifebar, this actually makes many songs MUCH easier, and therefore many people (as well as the game itself) won't consider you to have passed a song until you pass it on a normal lifebar.

Scratching is difficult to master at first. It's a easy concept, but it takes a lot of coordination. You remember that old "rub your stomach and pad your head" coordination test? This is just that, only taken to a ridiculous extreme. First, unless you are lucky (I'd call it "blessed") enough to be playing on an arcade cabinet, you should always scratching in alternating directions. Don't always scratch upwards or downwards, or songs like Spin the Disk or War Game (depending on the style you play) will chew you up and spit you out by the time you get to them.

Choose your hand positioning ahead of time, then tweak it to suit your needs as you go along. Most people are most comfortable with their left hand covering the first black and white keys at an angle, so they can use their pinkies to scratch (a process conveniently enough called "pinky-scratching"), while covering the five buttons further away from the turntable with their right hand. If you happen to be a southpaw, the positions are reversed (since the IIDX controller is reversable in order to accomodate left-handed players).

Mostly, take your time and have fun.
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-Sir "O"
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[CoasterKrazy]

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Some comments/additions...

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[0rion]

Well, I didn't have 5th Style (and was dissuaded from buying it because a lot of people that I talked to said it wasn't all that great), so I wasn't aware that Beginner started on 5th sorry about that. I have both 4th and 3rd, and neither had Beginner mode. Of course, the Light 7 songs were also a lot easier in general back then, so... *Shrug*

One minor thing about the lifebar. In normal mode on IIDX, the bar starts at 22%, not 20. I believe it begins at 20 on the 5-key Beatmania Mixes, though. It's just been awhile since I've PLAYED any of them...

I was oversimplifying about adding notes in on IIDX because I didn't want to get bogged down with semantics. The gist of my statement was that you can't simply ghost notes like you can with DDR steps. There are a couple of exceptions (my friend mashes the buttons at the quintuplets on Linus 7), but on the whole, it's just not a good idea.
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-Sir "O"
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[PlatinumHawke]

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[rmz]

Yes, a miss poor is 6%. A mash poor is less, possibly only 2%.
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[yyr]

[0rion]

Yeah, the jump in difficulties is ALWAYS hard on IIDX. That's what makes it IIDX. Whether it's Beginner->Light7, Light7->7-Key, or 7-Key-> Another 7, it will always require a lot of work. The good thing about Beginner mode is that it opens up a lot of songs that sound good, but are difficult to play even on Light7 (like One or Eight, or The Safari).
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-Sir "O"
There's a little yellow bird on my avatar. (Brawl FC: 4640-1720-6690)

[PlatinumHawke]

I still think that the biggest jump (and the only one really) is from Beginner in to Light7. When you look at Light7 to 7key, there is on average a higher difficulty on 7key, you still have alot of songs easier on 7key, than songs on Light7 (compare my passing Deadline 7k, to failing Regulus L7).

Light7 to 7key isn't so much a jump, as it is a transition. If you fail something hard on 7key, you still have challenging Light7 charts to play, so you're still going to progess even though you aren't passing any new 7key charts. Compare that to Beginner to Light7. Fail a L7 song? You generally aren't going to learn much from replaying Beginner mode, since you'll probably have cleared all the charts well by now. No ease of progression means you have to jump to the next level, rather than practicing into it.

Edit: Well, actually, if you're just playing a modern style, say 8th or 9th, then yes, there is a jump between Light7 and 7key, but mostly from how the songs don't mesh well with difficulty. Look at 8th on Light 7, mostly 4* and 5*, with some 6*. Look at it on 7key, not alot of songs below 6*, mostly 8* and 9* songs. There's your jump. 9th style is even worse really.

There are jumps or walls in 7key, which usually relate to difficulty (ie, passing 7/8s after beating lots of 6/7s), but that comes from the grade scale that rapidly became obsolete sometime around 7th style. Play 9th, you'll see what I mean with how big the gap is with some 7+ songs.

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