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FwAnkY Bouy Trick Member


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20. Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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For me, it's ITG all the way.
Like most of the people on this forum, i started with DDR; on Extreme2 2 months before the release of SN wich sucked ballz after 1 month of playing it. The ever changing grading system from one port to an other killed it for me.
The % scoring system is according to me the only way to do things. Also, like others said earlier, the arrows are much clearer and don't blend in with the background, no semi stealth songs. The new difficulty range is an other point to ITG. The hard stepcharts aren't BS like the new things comming each year under the konami label. Since I like fast beats, the songs are perfect for me for the most part. Ands 2.5 was an illumination for me when I started ITG.
I wish that konami would let Roxor remake an ITG3 so that the fanbase won't die little by little. Lucky we have R21.... _________________
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Russo` Trick Member


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22. Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Lalalalalala...Just had to say this.
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sheep Trick Member

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23. Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Arctic Wolves wrote: | | shurf wrote: | | Better music fine, but prettier arrows? |
Sure. ITG arrows are insanely difficult to read on x1. Yes, I realize most ITG players could care less, but I play x1 because that's just how I like to play the game, and DDR arrows are so much more functional at x1 than ITG's blocky huge arrows. Does speed modding improve my score? Hells yes. Does ITG have a Challenge mode that forces x1? Hells no. Still, it's how I've always played and I dislike having to adjust for ITG; a flatter, sprite-like arrowskin on ITG would have been greatly appreciated by me (and probably no one else). |
You can read DDR's noteskin on 1x? Can you sightread it? I find that 1x sightreads (or not played enough times to know the step-rhythm) are next to impossible to decipher on any song that isn't straight eighths with DDR's noteskin(easy songs are different, of course). At least on ITG you can actually read the rhythm.
As for my opinion, I would vote ITG by far. The fact that Roxor is willing/able to actually make good, challenging steps cinches it. There are two main beefs I have with DDR's steps that lead me to this decision:
1)16th notes are okay. It seems like Konami doesn't realize that people could use speed mods rather than have virtually all challenging steps on doubled BPM's. Also, you don't need annoying BPM shifts to make hard steps. Take speed mods into account when writing steps.
2)Awkward jumps and way too many crossvers and spins are annoying. Again, challenge can come from speed, this ties in with point one. From what I've seen, on harder DDR songs much of the challenege comes from the fact that the steps are awkward and not fun, while ITG puts a real, increasable skill on difficulty (speed).
That and for some reason, I just don't find DDR as accessible to get into. |
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Arctic Wolves Trick Member


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24. Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| sheep wrote: | | You can read DDR's noteskin on 1x? Can you sightread it? I find that 1x sightreads (or not played enough times to know the step-rhythm) are next to impossible to decipher on any song that isn't straight eighths with DDR's noteskin(easy songs are different, of course). |
Yes, actually, I've played x1 so long I actually know what Vivid colours correspond to certain steps. I can tell 4ths, 8ths, 16ths, and triplets apart on Vivid just because they go through slightly different colour cycles with respect to each other. My sight reading on x1 really only breaks down with extended 32nds, like the slowdown in PARANOiA ~HADES~ Challenge. I failed that part on the first try, definitely.
The ITG arrows definitely help reading by being coloured Note style, but at x1 I just find them so scrunched together I have trouble with them. While speed modding on DDR does improve my scores, doing so on ITG results in tremendous score boosts since I struggle with x1 ITG arrows a lot. Weird, I know.
In an attempt to be more on-topic, I'll say that I probably prefer DDR since it has the power to be able to do so much more (musically and from a hardware perspective; Konami's got BOOM BOOM DOLLAR$) and it really wouldn't take much to implement the things I like better about ITG in DDR (as much as that may or may not happen in the future). _________________
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25. Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| sheep wrote: | | You can read DDR's noteskin on 1x? Can you sightread it? |
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26. Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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In The Groove is better than DDR in so many ways. For example...
1. Better step charts but mostly just in the really hard songs. And this is sometimes debatable since both games have their ups and downs.
2. Better scoring system for sure. Nearly flawless. Just wish I saw something other than letter grades though but the percentage is perfect.
3. More options and mods.
4. Clearer backgrounds and noteskins.
5. Many more challenging songs.
6. You can see which player has the high score for each song.
7. The select song menu has lots of detailed information of each song.
8. Mines and hands add surprise and variety to playing.
A lot of people complain about the music but I love the music in the game a lot more than recent DDR games. Also, DDR has about 10 times as many songs and the power to license anyone they want. ITG was only just getting started and didn't have much of a chance to get such a variety yet, especially with just 1 video game release. _________________
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27. Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Wtf Who's Waffle? wrote: | No other posts.. Awwww  |
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0rion Trick Member


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29. Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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ITG isn't all that hard to read at 1x, in my opinion. I think people exaggerate that a bit too much.
As for which one I like better, it's really hard to chose. I like both series for different reasons.
One thing that I like about ITG2 that I didn't see anyone mention (though someone might have, and I just missed it) is that it will indicate whether you're stepping early or late if you get a rating between Miss and Fantastic. On DDR, you pretty much have to guess. _________________
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FwAnkY Bouy Trick Member


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31. Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| 0rion wrote: | | One thing that I like about ITG2 that I didn't see anyone mention (though someone might have, and I just missed it) is that it will indicate whether you're stepping early or late if you get a rating between Miss and Fantastic. On DDR, you pretty much have to guess. |
I second that. It isn't just that the ITG Excellent window is slightly larger than the DDR Perfect window that makes it much easier for me to get an ITG FEC than a DDR AAA - the dashes will tell me which way my Excellents are off - BEFORE I get a Great. Plus, the syncing is better. In DDR, if I'm going for a AAA - or even a SDG - I'm pretty much in the dark the whole song as to whether I'm dead-on (Marvelous) or close to getting an early Great, or close to getting a late Great.
Just a thought; if ITG judged Ridiculous while telling me which way my Fantastics were off, perhaps I could get a **** or at least a few more SDE's since I could correct before I get an Excellent! As it is I have one ***, which is also a SDE, on a hold-heavy 4. |
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